check your facts people

"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
04/04/2016 at 09:41 • Filed to: None

‘we didn;t just send a man to the moon, we gave him a moon buggy with big old knobby tires’

the quote isn’t exact but pretty close to what was just said in a commercial on the radio. I think it was for mint gum or something.

there are a couple things wrong with this (aside from us just filming the landing in Hollywood) but the “tires” were not knobby, and I dont know if you can really call them tires either.

I was watching something on TV about the moon landing and it was talking about how destructive the moon dust is and that it is one of the biggest hurtles to returning the the moon. I found it pretty interesting, I always thought the mood dust would have been cheese a nice soft powder

DISCUSSION (37)

Slant6 > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 09:48

I feel like China’s going to actually get to the moon and expose that we were never there.

zeontestpilot > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 09:49

Somewhere I read that the moon dust was really invasive because it was an extremely fine powder that was also extremely rough and cut things easily, like the astronauts boots. It also was hazardous to breath in because it was so fine.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 09:50

I love the moon buggy. I think it’s just awesome. I love it.

spanfucker retire bitch > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 09:52

Yeah, moon dust is a bitch. It’s extremely abrasive and gets into literally everything.

spanfucker retire bitch > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 09:52

I hope you’re joking.

TheHondaBro > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
04/04/2016 at 09:57

Hi Donald Trump.

Slant6 > spanfucker retire bitch
04/04/2016 at 09:59

Half yes and half no. I have no reason to believe that we did land on the moon and no reason to believe we didn’t.

Same concept behind weather or not god exists. It’s possible that it’s all true, but the same amount of evidence exists to say it’s just a story made up to give life meaning.

I believe we went to the moon, but there’s a possibility I’m wrong. Only time will tell.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > TheHondaBro
04/04/2016 at 10:00

OPPOsaurus WRX > spanfucker retire bitch
04/04/2016 at 10:01

i was joking i’m pretty sure we did it, Slant6.....

OPPOsaurus WRX > zeontestpilot
04/04/2016 at 10:03

yea when they were talking about it, it kinda reminded me of asbestos.

McMike > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 10:04

Son, don’t ever let me catch you fooling around with that mood dust. I already went through this with your mother.

Kinja'd!!!

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 10:08

I mean you can bounce lasers off of the mirror they left there, so it’s not like there isn’t a way to prove we were up there. Also, do you think the Russians honestly would have not gotten to the moon already if they thought there was a shred of a chance they could prove the USA lied?

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > TheHondaBro
04/04/2016 at 10:11

The moon buggy is the best space rover, it knows all the other rovers, it could have been a mars rover if it wanted to.

McMike > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 10:19

I think it would be hilarious if they got to the moon only to find the movie set we used to film all that footage.

Slant6 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
04/04/2016 at 10:27

I believe it, like I said, but as a counter point maybe Russia hasn’t gone yet because they can’t, because no one has.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 10:32

Out of curiosity (rover) what makes you think that it would be difficult in this day and age to get to the moon? Do you also doubt whether we have satellites orbiting earth? Or the existence of the ISS?

Slant6 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
04/04/2016 at 10:42

Well, if it was easy don’t you think more countries would do it?

Orbiting earth is one thing, getting to the moon and back is another.

It also follows the scientific method to have multiple sources before something is accepted. NASA is incredibly trustworthy, but they’re still just one source.

I’ll say it for the third time, I believe we went to the moon. I’m just saying it’s possible that I’m wrong.

AuthiCooper1300 > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 10:43

I suppose the pimply trainee who researched the content for the commercial has only ever seen pictures of one of these:

Kinja'd!!!

This is Grover, the training rover by the US Geological Survey. It was driven in areas of Arizona, New Mexico also Hawaii. The caption to the picture is fascinating:

Grover was built in just four months in 1971 by the USGS Astrogeology Research Program (called the Branch of Astrogeology at the time) and used to training Apollo 15-17 astronauts at the Cinder Lakes training ground near Flagstaff, in California’s Mojave Desert, and in the Rio Grande gorge near Taos, New Mexico, an area which resembled the moon’s Hadley Rille, destination of Apollo 15. Driving practice was necessary for the astronauts because of the rover’s unique propulsion system: it had a separate motor for each wheel. The trainer was built in Flagstaff by Rutledge Mills (equipment specialist) and mechanics William Tennin and Irving Wiser. Design and construction of Grover was carefully modeled after the actual Rover. Costs were kept down on the model by using a variety of new and used parts from Renault (R-8 steering gear), Volkswagon, Lear, Jeep (hubs by Willy’s), Warn, General Motors (Oldsmobile Toronado wheels), Hughes Aircraft (B-26 bomber landing gears), Morris Minor and Yamaha. When parts were needed that the men couldn’t find, they were handcrafted in the USGS shops in Flagstaff. Grover could not be identical to the ones which were used on the moon because these latter vehicles are actually quite fragile, built only to withstand the moon’s one-sixth gravity: Grover weighs 800 pounds heavier than the LVRs that went to the moon. This vehicle was one of 10 lunar rovers built, including testing and training models.

(Picture and text from here: https://www.usgs.gov/aboutusgs/who_… )

Another “drivable” LRV, this one built by GM’s Delco-Remy and a much more detailed mockup of the proper Moon article:

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There were around ten training/simulation LRVs that could be driven on Earth.

Just found an excellent article here ( http://www.rocketstem.org/2015/07/06/con… ) on the development of the LRV. The first 1/6 RC folding prototype (with GI doll included) to catch the attention of Wernher von Braun is particularly cute:

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spanfucker retire bitch > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 10:48

I have no reason to believe that we did land on the moon and no reason to believe we didn’t.

What a bunch of mealy-mouthed bullshit. There is a preponderance of evidence that says we went to the moon and nothing but conspiratorial fact-lacking garbage that says otherwise.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 10:53

Most countries don’t have the resources required to get to the moon, or at least the budget allocations.

It’s only possible to think humans didn’t walk on the moon if you don’t actually look at the evidence. The moon landings can be analyzed from multiple angles/sciences and all will show that it happened.

Saying we might not have gotten to the moon is like saying vaccines might not work. It is just not factually true.

Slant6 > spanfucker retire bitch
04/04/2016 at 10:55

But it all has come out of one government agency.

I’m saying this for the 4th time now: I believe we landed on the moon.

All I’m saying is that there is a small posibility that I’m wrong.

The same way things commonly thought fact are proved wrong everyday. Remember when people thought the world was flat (I understand this was a long time ago).

Slant6 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
04/04/2016 at 11:06

5th time I’m going to say it: I BELIEVE HUMANS HAVE WALKED ON THE MOON

I’ve seen and believe evidence that it’s happened.

It’s entirely possible that a vaccine doesn’t work. I’m certain that it’s happened before. It doesn’t mean that all vaccines don’t work. There are many vaccines, so if one failed it would be one in many.

Since we only have one country doing moonlandings it’s possible that our one out of one is actually wrong ( I know there were like 7 moonlandings, but all from the same source).

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Slant6
04/04/2016 at 11:07

Did you ignore the part about being able to bounce a laser off of the mirror that was left there for the express purpose of proving we were there? that’s great that you believe we made it there, it’s the fact that you entertain even the smallest doubt that it might have been all a hoax that worries me.

Also, people STILL believe the world is flat, and it’s the same people who believe we didn’t get to the moon. Some people just hate to think humans can to amazing things.

Nasa fields scientists from all over the world, if they had been lying about the moon, the russians would have called them on it. Seriously, it’s not that hard to understand. Don’t try and say that for the fifth time you believe we made it but there is a chance it’s all made up. Science doesn’t work like that, and scientists sure as hell don’t work like that. Scientists looooove to prove other scientists made mistakes, they don’t think “oh I’ll lose grant money if that guy gets his work proved flawed” they think “if I can prove that guy’s work is flawed, maybe I can get some of his grant money for my project.”

Urambo Tauro > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 11:16

LOL; I heard that ad the other day as well. I forgot all about it until you brought it up. I guess it wasn’t an April Fools joke after all...

OPPOsaurus WRX > AuthiCooper1300
04/04/2016 at 11:21

holy crap thats along read, I wish I could read that whole thing, but ‘work’

BigBlock440 > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 12:32

My understanding of it is it is a fine powder, but since there’s no atmosphere to blow it around and wear down the edges, it’s very sharp and jagged. Dust that gets blown around like mars dust is equivalent to river rock, where moon dust is more like shale.

OPPOsaurus WRX > BigBlock440
04/04/2016 at 12:40

that could be true. the part I remember was that a lot of it is shaped from meteor impacts which liquefies title pieces. when the molten pieces land it almost adds little teeth to the dust which makes it hard and even more damaging

MrDakka > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/04/2016 at 22:31

That and the fact that the glass transition temperature of tire rubber is around -70 deg C. Tires don’t work so well if they start breaking apart with every bump.